In Conversation · Notes · · By Andy Sutton

Six conversations in four weeks

The people who make television know things you can't find in a manual. I gave myself a month to ask them. Here's what it took, and where it's taking me.

Andy at his desk, smiling, with a Story and Magic edit open on the monitor beside him

How do you learn a craft that took someone else thirty years?

You can't fast-forward it. I know that better than most. It took me a long time, and a lot of notes, to find my own way of telling a story. But there's a shortcut I keep coming back to: ask the people who've already walked the road.

So I did. Six times in four weeks.

The ask

Some of them I've sat beside in an edit suite for years. Others I'd only known as a name on a credit list or a profile on LinkedIn, people whose work I admired and wanted to understand. I wrote to them anyway.

They said yes. An executive producer behind DIY SOS. A series producer from Blue Planet III. A showrunner. A composer. A sound recordist who has worked on Ocean with David Attenborough. A pair of puppeteers whose characters sell for Prada and Nike. Between them, decades of television.

Three recorded conversations side by side, Andy on a remote call with a puppeteer, a studio founder and a sound recordist

A call, not a crew

I record every conversation remotely, like a video call. No crew, no travel, no day lost. An hour, wherever they happen to be.

That was a deliberate choice. These are busy people, and the smaller the dent in their diary, the easier the yes. It's worked. It also keeps me quick. I can follow my own curiosity, or steer toward what the courses in the Studio need next.

Andy laughing at his desk on one side of a split screen, two puppeteers in their workshop full of puppets on the other

Three days in Resolve

Every full conversation goes into the In Conversation strand of the Studio, with show notes and links to the shows and people they mention along the way. I cut each one in Resolve. Edit, notes and packaging take me about three days.

An In Conversation edit open in DaVinci Resolve, the split-screen frame in the viewer and the cut on the timeline below

The transcripts

The real value shows up later, reading back.

A conversation transcript beside the recorded split screen, with the edit timeline and chapter markers underneath

Put six transcripts side by side and patterns appear. Five people describe the same lesson in five different ways, and that becomes a course. Our directing course came straight out of what the guests told me.

Sometimes the transcripts lead somewhere I didn't plan. One conversation turned into an idea for a course on Avid, for producers who have never sat down at one. That's the joy of it. You go in looking for one thing and come out with three.

Course and conversation cards in the Story and Magic classroom, including a directing course, a business course and three In Conversation episodes

The engine

Under all of it sits the same thing that has driven me for twenty-eight years, telling stories for clients like Disney, Nat Geo and the BBC. A fascination with how stories work, and with the people who make them work.

Andy mid-conversation at his desk, hands open, explaining something

So, how do you learn it?

Not in a month. One conversation at a time, from people generous enough to show you the steps they took. Whatever your reason for telling stories, even if it looks nothing like mine, that's open to you too.

Keep learning. Keep creating. Keep telling stories, however you can.

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Photos of Andy: Paul Groom.

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